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Both Mark and Neckel fail to "read" between the lines, simply because you have not yet realize your potentials, study the post more carefully, then the awareness will reveal itself. I know first hand what effects the Peace Meditation has "influenced" since its beginning. Its a passive response from some who can avoid direct intervention since they were responsible as former religious ringleaders as these were accepted into the folds of the Plejarens long ago.
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I have just given you and others an example of such "potentials", yet you fail to recognize such abilities that are dormant for those who have such attributes. Why you may ask that such concepts are not listed (as far as I know) in creational laws is the simple fact that as presented by the Plejarens, these laws have to evolve further in order to adequately address the unique circumstances on Earth where Creational Laws have been prostituted by advanced ET's for their benefit at the expense of Earth humans.
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Here is one of a few examples, we know that the Plejarens had the opportunity to present an option (if they even considered it?) to those doomed ET's responsible for the mass suicide occurring at Tunguska, forbidden by their home worlds to return or provide technical assistance, because ancestors brought back from Earth the insane religious beliefs a thousand years ago to their home worlds causing death and destruction. It was the same religious insanity that currently plague Earth to this day, mainly from the Giza intelligences, thus here offers a golden opportunity for the Plejarens to take advantage of solving two problems at the same time, but they chose other wise and allowed these ET's to kill themselves and be condemned to this Earth accomplishing nothing. Yet, if they were allowed this other option of redemption, how would things have panned out?
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Certainly these ET's would have rounded up the Giza much earlier and Earth would have a much better chance to evolve spiritually, but no...we are here again, on the brink of WW3 and other degenerative events that threaten us every day.
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One has to envision this complex "equation" within "equations", along with the Cause & Effect in conjunction to its negative counter-part, the Not-Cause and Not Effect which is listed in the above statement (Tunguska). It is very difficult to describe in words and would be better explained in graphical presentations, where dimensions can be branched off, then re-connected in time zones. But in a nut shell, picture where you stand along with your past personalities, events and the cross roads that determine your attributes, then connect that to all the Cause/Effect episodes along with the Not-Cause and Not-Effect circumstances to see where your "equational potentials" lay in order to reference your options. Creational laws are NOT chiseled in stone to remain unchanged, especially so when dealing with solutions to uncreational results. Being so stagnates the evolution of Creation itself.
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Frank said ...

What Billy is saying here is no more than what all of us know but dont practice.....this to me is just another distraction to DOING what I believe should be done. Talking a good game is just that! a good talk....everyone has this abillity.....next!

--Frank 23:14, 4 June 2010 (BST)

Zameen said ...

To Frank: So why DID you post anything here at all? get back to work! (just being frank.)

--Zameen 23:23, 4 June 2010 (BST)

Neckel said ...

.... only those that really understood behave after their knowledge..... "Wenn es in Fleisch und Blut übergeht"..... Honestly :) globally we do not much better behave than our ancestors the romans, or the european settlers that came to north/south america, in an ethical, moral and human way, only the methods changed and our doing is better covered and disguised and hided also because of our sophisticated media and entertainment industry..... therefore the majority only sees 30 % of what is really happening in the world. To say: "We know all this, but no one is practicing it." is only a cheap excuse with double meaning. For one we think we already know everything, but in reality we did not understand anything. Second one presumes that all the others know it but do not do anything, so why should i do something, because one alone can not do anything,..... what an illusion and a simple excuse to continue like before.

By the way, we are not only talking here but also living it. :)

OM Kanon 32 Vers 106. "Ueber wertlose Dinge macht der Mensch grossen Lärm und grosses Geschrei, über die Weisheit und Wahrheit und über das Wissen und die Liebe schweigt er, denn durch sine Dummheit erkennt er ihren grossen Wert nicht."

Salome

--Neckel 08:23, 6 June 2010 (BST)

Sanjin said ...

Quick translation of that quote:

"About worthless things the human makes big noise and big outcry; about the wisdom and truth and the knowledge and the love he's silent, because due to his stupidity he does not recognise their great value."

--Sanjin 18:33, 6 June 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...

I know when I first read the contact reports I was a bit skeptical as well Frank. I thought what the hell are they doing about any of these problems. I think everybody that reads something can interpret it in a different way. I presume that your meaning of "DOING" is for Billy and his Plejaren friends to fix all our wrongs. Correct me if I'm wrong. I read many times Billy ask his Plejaren friends to try and intervene or if they could do something. It's like the people of today, they do something wrong and don't man up to it. If people would take responsibility rather than finding a bailout plan every time they do wrong, our world would be better. WE have to create and shape our own world. I find it rather laughable that we want to advance in technology and fly into space when our current living quarters has a lot of growing up to do.

--Mark 19:35, 6 June 2010 (BST)

Childless said ...

I recognized the problems of over population at a young age and detrimed that I would not produce any offspring. If even half the population would do this we as humans would be on the right path to saving our own existance. There are many children who are orphans and if one can not live without children this is a good choice to make.

--Childless 14:33, 22 June 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

After reading many of your posting, besides BEAM's and the Plejaren contact notes along with some personal observations, one has concluded that Earth humans as well as others, through its various stages of evolution(s), be it re-incarnations of both Earthly, Lyrian and other advanced ET's that encompass a rather inter-mixed, inter-related web of intricate relationship(s) that connects each entity whether material or non-material, each has certain "potentials", depending on the quality parameters that shaped it's existence on the value of it's positive and/or negative connections that will equally determine its evolutionary rate through the Cause & Effect or the Not-Cause & Not-Effect criteria.

It's this inter-change between fine and material energies that are "normally" conditioned to evolve naturally by Creational parameters, but evolution will often be determined by other avenues if violations continue without the proper logical and humane intervention by the powers to be that have the authority to ensure balance and harmony. This route for those having to fend for themselves are available when they recognize and couple their "equational potentials" to bring about the necessary changes in order to address the wrongs, manipulation, exploitation of generations of abuse.

True, the Earth population as a whole is not a prime candidate for such attributes, but certainly not only the prophets have these characteristics as well, some outside of these parameters have the necessary "equational potentials" to focus such energies that do have the proper pre-requisites to illicit a discharge that will balance the unequal forces which have plagued Earth for so long.

Such examples have already been utilized by the Orions, who first build the Egyptian pyramids finishing the top section by coupling their telekinstics abilities.

Then you have a more recent, yet intriguing event described on pages 7-10 by a former US Army remote viewer named Lyn Buchanan in "The Seventh Sense", when provoked by a fellow soldier who sabotaged his computer presentation to his NATO commanders during the cold war era. Buchanan's anger shut down the entire NATO and Warsaw pact's computer intelligence network, which if true, does indeed indicate the "potential" yet to be discovered in other Earth humans.

However, caution should be warned to those seeking evil manipulation of such "potentials", for feedback does occur with very destructive results. Maybe when this becomes a threat to other non-Earthlings, then intervention may occur, but need that be the case if properly and logically examined by those that have the technology?

The Plejaren and their allies are already, in a more passive way, engaging in the Peace Meditation process, but has have little effect on the insane behaviors on Earth. We have witness the passive effects on the Giza intelligences, who still wreaked havoc in spite of such measures, but only when physically removed, then their evil ways stopped, but its deadly effects continue for another 200-300 years. Maybe its time for more drastic measures that really addresses the root of the problems? And it does not require direct intervention, just the proper "impulses" and appropriate protective inputs as described above in the "web of intricate inter-connections" that are also linked within dimensions through the Cause and Effect relationships.


--Hawaiian 02:05, 23 June 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...

Hawaiian I read your latest comment and was wondering if what you meant was that Earth humanity should be given certain abilites such as telekinesis, mind reading, future interpretation, that they should use it to help man or should these be given to certain individuals. I don't think that would be the best idea. I think like Billy said this is the material state of being and a very early one at that. If we can't handle simple equations such as drilling holes in the Earth which causes natural disasters. I don't think anyone will possess such qualities will be known out there publicly. Imagine what the greedy would do with such capabilities. I think that level of evolution should be reserved for those that understand the effects of what capabilities they possess. I did read that through the universe and it's comedic side some people or as most would call degenerates have acquired some unique capability from one of the contact reports, if they do I sure hope they would never aid those that are not worthy of such tremendous skills. I believe most of our problems really just require a few things, common sense, patience, planning ahead, and utilizing the cause and effect theory in all of our decision making.

--Mark 05:29, 23 June 2010 (BST)

Neckel said ...

Dear Hawaiian,

If you kew what the peace meditation already did for good things you would not say that it had only little effect in the course of history ;) ...... I say only Gorbatschof and Berlin wall...

Good words Mark. :))

Salome

--Neckel 10:41, 23 June 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

Both Mark and Neckel fail to "read" between the lines, simply because you have not yet realize your potentials, study the post more carefully, then the awareness will reveal itself. I know first hand what effects the Peace Meditation has "influenced" since its beginning. Its a passive response from some who can avoid direct intervention since they were responsible as former religious ringleaders as these were accepted into the folds of the Plejarens long ago.

I have just given you and others an example of such "potentials", yet you fail to recognize such abilities that are dormant for those who have such attributes. Why you may ask that such concepts are not listed (as far as I know) in creational laws is the simple fact that as presented by the Plejarens, these laws have to evolve further in order to adequately address the unique circumstances on Earth where Creational Laws have been prostituted by advanced ET's for their benefit at the expense of Earth humans.

Here is one of a few examples, we know that the Plejarens had the opportunity to present an option (if they even considered it?) to those doomed ET's responsible for the mass suicide occurring at Tunguska, forbidden by their home worlds to return or provide technical assistance, because ancestors brought back from Earth the insane religious beliefs a thousand years ago to their home worlds causing death and destruction. It was the same religious insanity that currently plague Earth to this day, mainly from the Giza intelligences, thus here offers a golden opportunity for the Plejarens to take advantage of solving two problems at the same time, but they chose other wise and allowed these ET's to kill themselves and be condemned to this Earth accomplishing nothing. Yet, if they were allowed this other option of redemption, how would things have panned out?

Certainly these ET's would have rounded up the Giza much earlier and Earth would have a much better chance to evolve spiritually, but no...we are here again, on the brink of WW3 and other degenerative events that threaten us every day.

One has to envision this complex "equation" within "equations", along with the Cause & Effect in conjunction to its negative counter-part, the Not-Cause and Not Effect which is listed in the above statement (Tunguska). It is very difficult to describe in words and would be better explained in graphical presentations, where dimensions can be branched off, then re-connected in time zones. But in a nut shell, picture where you stand along with your past personalities, events and the cross roads that determine your attributes, then connect that to all the Cause/Effect episodes along with the Not-Cause and Not-Effect circumstances to see where your "equational potentials" lay in order to reference your options. Creational laws are NOT chiseled in stone to remain unchanged, especially so when dealing with solutions to uncreational results. Being so stagnates the evolution of Creation itself.

--Hawaiian 19:26, 23 June 2010 (BST)